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2008-2014 jıllardag'ı sa'wbetler [[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat/Arxiv:2008-2014|arxivke]] ko'shirildi.
== Vandalism ==
[[Paydalanıwshı:216.36.166.182]] ([[Arnawlı:Contributions/216.36.166.182]]) need to be blocked for vandalism--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 23:31, 2008 j. iyunnin' 10 (UTC)
 
== [[:en:Wicked Bible]] ==
 
Salam! Could I ask you to translate the article [[:en:Wicked Bible|Wicked Bible from English]] (or [[:pl:Fałszywa Biblia|from Polish]]) into Karakalpak? I've selected only the most interesting languages ;) Please, take your time, the Karakalpak Wikipedia will get a new interesting article and, besides, you'll make me happy ;). Ah, one thing more - if you want me to translate any article into Polish or Silesian, feel free to ask me (if I speak the langauge that it's written it). If you would finish, plaese make me know on my userpage :) Thanks in advance, [[Paydalanıwshı:Timpul|Timpul]] 20:17, 2008 j. iyunnin' 12 (UTC)
 
== Adam ati hakkinda ==
 
[[Wikipedia:Maqala baslawshılar ushın qısqa qollanba]] degenge adam esimleri hakkinda tu'sinikler terdim, qalay qaraysin? Aytiliw formasinan buriwshi saliwin de mindet qiliw kerek dep oylaymin. Maselen, [[Xristofor Kolumb]] -> [[Cristoforo Colombo]]--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 19:14, 2008 j. iyunnin' 13 (UTC)
: Tu'sinikti qollap-quwatlayman. Biraq ''Tuwılg'an jeri yamasa jumıs qılg'an jeri, qaysısı jazıwı jen'ildew. '' degendi tu'sinbedim. Ja'ne adamlardın' atların İnglis wikipediasınan alg'anımız durıs emespe, keyin qawıs ishine originalın jazip qoysaq boladı, ma'selen: '''Christofer Columbus''' (ital. ''Cristoforo Colombo''). Redirect ma'selesinde qollap quwatlayman, biraq oni baslawshilar ushin qiyinlaw bolatug'in shig'ar qiliw. A tak duris, ha'r bir betke ha'r bir variantti esapqa alatug'in redirect bet boliwi kerek. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 06:20, 2008 j. iyunnin' 14 (UTC)
::1.''İnglis wikipediasınan alg'anımız durıs emespe'' - Bul ''original''-g'a qalay jatadi? Bul degen arasha til g'oy. ''Original'' degen tiwg'an esimi yamasa jumis islegen (место деятельности) jerdegi esimi emes pe? ''Christofer Columbus'' tim ersi estiledi, tim inglisshe. Menin' tu'siniwimshe ''original'' hesh arasha til orfografiyasiz tu'pnusqa esimdin' formasi. Tek inglis formasin alsaq, onda ''original'' degendi alip tastaw kerek.
::2. Redirect degennin' qiynlig'in tu'sinbedim--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 12:11, 2008 j. iyunnin' 14 (UTC)
:::1. [[Wikipedia:Ha'mme Wikipediyalarda bolıwı tiyis maqalalar dizimi]]nde ko'p adamlardın' atları İnglis tilinde jazılg'an, sonın' ushın sol jerde qalay jazılsa, bizlerde sonday qılıp jaza bergenimiz tuwrı shig'ar.
:::2. Jan'a paydalanıwshılarg'a redirect betlerin jaratıw qıyınlaw bolatug'ın shig'ar dep oylap edim, sebebi olar bilmesten ha'mmesin "bardak" qılıp jiberiwi mu'mkin, ma'selen jan'a jaratılg'an betlerdi ulıwma basqa betlerge redirect qılıw, etc. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 00:56, 2008 j. iyunnin' 16 (UTC)
 
== Tinis belgileri haqqinda ==
 
Tinis belgileri (знаки препинания) haqqinda ma'selelerdi sheshiw kerek:
# tirnaqshalar: „...“, «...»; biri birine kirgende «„...“» yamasa tek "..." ma?
# siziqtar: defis pen tire bir (-) tan'bamen me? yamasa bo'lek – — pe?
--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 12:23, 2008 j. iyunnin' 14 (UTC)
:: 1. tırnaqshalar ushın "..." paydalang'anımız tuwrı shig'ar, al biraq bir-birine kirgen tırnaqshalardı bilmedim, sizler qazaq tilinde qalay jazıp atırsız?
:: 2. defis penen tire bo'lek bolıwı kerek
:: [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 01:10, 2008 j. iyunnin' 16 (UTC)
 
== [[Wikipedia:Ha'mme Wikipediyalarda bolıwı tiyis maqalalar dizimi]] ==
 
Meta-dag'i nuqsamen sinxronizatsiya islew kerek--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 12:35, 2008 j. iyunnin' 14 (UTC)
: Done [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 07:58, 2008 j. iyunnin' 16 (UTC)
 
== Logo ==
[[Su'wret:Wiki.png|right|120px]]
[[:Su'wret:Wiki.png|here]] is the logo you [[m:Requests_for_logos#Karakalpak Wikipedia|requested]], now all you have to do is protect it and it should be changed in a couple of days :)--[[Paydalanıwshı:Cradel|Cradel]] 15:39, 2008 j. iyunnin' 15 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 01:20, 2008 j. iyunnin' 16 (UTC)
::I see there are currently no administrators here, so please notify me when you protect it so I can make the request --[[Paydalanıwshı:Cradel|Cradel]] 07:58, 2008 j. iyunnin' 16 (UTC)
:::Alright then, I've submitted the bug [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14588 here], now all you have to fo is wait :) --[[Paydalanıwshı:Cradel|Cradel]] 22:16, 2008 j. iyunnin' 18 (UTC)
::::Wait, I found a typo in logo text, there should be W'''İ'''K'''İ'''PED'''İ'''A, not WIKIPEDIA. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 23:58, 2008 j. iyunnin' 18 (UTC)
:::::Then I unprotect [[:Su'wret:Wiki.png|logo]]--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 00:11, 2008 j. iyunnin' 19 (UTC)
::::::Sorry about that, is it OK now? --[[Paydalanıwshı:Cradel|Cradel]] 13:20, 2008 j. iyunnin' 19 (UTC)
:::::::Seems, OK. Protected again.--[[Paydalanıwshı:AlefZet|AlefZet]] 18:02, 2008 j. iyunnin' 19 (UTC)
 
== Translation request ==
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'''The translation request'''<br>
Hi! Could I ask you to translate the article which you can find below into Qaraqalpaq? Please help me to show our language to the world – the article is quite short and has been selected from [[:en:Silesian language|English]] and [[:szl:Ślůůnsko godka|Silesian]] article and shortened as possible to contain only the basic informations. If you would finish, please, make me know on my [[:szl:Dyskusja użytkownika:Timpul|Silesian]] or [[:pl:Dyskusja wikipedysty:Timpul|Polish]] discussion. Thanks in advance.<br>PS. If you want me to translate <u>any</u> article into Polish or Silesian, contact me without hesistation.
<br>So, here’s the text to translation:<br>
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The '''Silesian language''' (Silesian: ''ślůnsko godka'', ''ślůnski'', sometimes also ''pů našymu'') is a language spoken by people in the Upper Silesia region in Poland, but also in Czech Republic and Germany. In 2002 about 56 000 declared Silesian as their native language, but the number of speakers is estimated on 1 250 000.
 
Silesian is closely related to Polish language, that’s why it is considered as a dialect of Polish by some linguistics.
=== Alphabet ===
There’s not one Silesian alphabet. The Silesian speakers are used to write their language with the Polish characters. In 2006 was invented the new Silesian alphabet, based on all of the Silesian scripts (there’s 10 of them). It is widely used on the Internet, as well as in the Silesian Wikipedia.
 
Aa Bb Cc Ćć Čč Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ńń Oo Pp Rr Řř Ss Śś Šš Tt Uu Ůů Ww Yy Zz Źź Žž
 
And some digraphs: Ch Dz Dź Dž.
 
=== External links ===
* [[:szl:Přodńo zajta|The Silesian Wikipedia]]
* [http://www.nowiny.pyrsk.com/ News in Silesian]
* [http://punasymu.com/_indexs.php Pů našymu – djalykt ślůnski kodyfikowůny]
</div>
Thank you once again, [[Paydalanıwshı:Timpul|Timpul]] 10:26, 2008 j. iyuldin' 16 (UTC)
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==Temporary access expired==
Hello Qarahat. The temporary access you requested on this wiki has expired (see [[m:Steward requests/Permissions/2008-09|archived request]]). Thanks. [[Paydalanıwshı:Nick1915|Nick1915]] 11:02, 2008 j. sentyabrdin' 30 (UTC)
 
== Diskussiyanı paydalanıwdı ku'sheyteyik ==
 
Qarahat, endi wiki haqqında so'ylessek, usınday diskussiya degen jerinde so'yleseyik, sonda basqalaram soyerden info aladı. --[[Paydalanıwshı:Jiemurat|Jiemurat]] 14:04, 2008 j. dekabrdin' 11 (UTC)
==Temporary access expired==
Hello Qarahat. The temporary access you requested on this wiki has expired (see [[m:Steward requests/Permissions/2009-01|archived request]]). Thanks. [[Paydalanıwshı:Nick1915|Nick1915]] 11:23, 2009 j. yanvardın' 2 (UTC)
 
== status prolonged ==
 
Hello Qarahat, the status has been prolonged for three months.
 
As an [[m:Administrator|Administrator]], you are allowed into [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-admin #wikimedia-admin], the cross-wiki coordination channel for Wikimedia administrators.
Any member of the channel can invite you in temporarily, but you need an invite exemption from [[m:IRC channels#Crosswiki access coordination|a channel operator]] to get in whenever you want. Please come to [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia #wikimedia] and ask for an invite.
 
Any admin from any project is welcome and it is a good place for cross-wiki coordination of vandal and spam fighting.
It is also useful for new admins to contact more experienced admins in real-time to get help with the more complicated admin tasks such as history merges/splits and importing via [[m:Help:Import|Special:Import]].
 
;Please remember to translate the interface at [[betawiki:]] only and to upload images preferably at [[commons:]]
 
Thank you
 
Best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|qus]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] 15:08, 2009 j. yanvardın' 6 (UTC)
 
==Temporary access expired==
Hello Qarahat. The temporary access you requested on this wiki has expired. Thanks. [[Paydalanıwshı:Dungodung|Dungodung]] 08:04, 2009 j. apreldin' 5 (UTC)
== request for help==
Greetings Qarahat!Could I ask you to translate [[:en:Qin Shi Huang]](listed in 1000 vital articles) and [[:en:Wuhan]](a chinese city,my hometown) into qaraqalpaq tili?You may shorten them as possible to contain only the basic informations,one or two sentences are enough. If you want me to translate any article into Chinese or Vahcuengh,contact me without hesistation.
Thank you very much!--[[en:User:Biŋhai|Biŋhai]]
 
==[[:Shablon:Country data Japan]] ==
I need the image "Flag of Japan - variant.svg" to change to [[:File:Merchant flag of Japan (1870).svg]]. Thank you. [[Paydalanıwshı:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 20:30, 2009 j. sentyabrdin' 2 (UTC)
:Done [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 02:58, 2009 j. sentyabrdin' 3 (UTC)
 
== Bosphorus ==
 
Hi, could you please create an article, at least a stub about Bosphorus in this wiki? If you do, i will be greatful to you. Thanks for your time.
 
*'''[[:en:Bosphorus|Bosphorus in en.wiki]]'''
*'''[[:ru:Босфор|Босфор in ru.wiki]]'''
--[[Paydalanıwshı:Stambouliote|Stambouliote]] 15:27, 2009 j. noyabrdin' 12 (UTC)
: Done, look at [[Bosfor]]. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 00:10, 2009 j. noyabrdin' 13 (UTC)
 
== Translation request for [[Şalom]]. ==
 
Could you check the article [[Şalom]]. There is already an article about Şalom, a Jewish weekly newspaper in Turkey, not in Karakalpak but in English, but could you check it and translate it from the other Wikipedia language sites, if you have the time and patience to do so.
The reason is that the newspaper Şalom is written (alas one page only) in a highly endangered language called Ladino or Judeo-Spanish, the Spanish of the 15th century. Perhaps this might gain your interest and sympathy.
 
Thank you.
 
Could you add additional information from these Wikipedia sites to the Karakalpak Wikipedia version of Şalom?
<br>[[ru:Шалом (газета)]]<br>[[en:Şalom]]<br>[[uz:Şalom]]
 
And could you also translate the Kazakh Wikipedia article [[kk:Шалом (Қазнет)]] into Kazakh. It is in English.
 
Thank you
 
: Dear friend, I tried to help you and created an article. But know you are asking more, sorry but I don't have time and interest to improve the article. For Kazakh translation, you can ask their contributors, I'm not very good in Kazakh language to translate articles. Hope for understanding. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 00:46, 2009 j. noyabrdin' 21 (UTC)
 
== Assalaamu 'alaykum . . . ==
 
Could you help us brother??? Please see: [[m:Requests for comment/ace.wikipedia and Prophet Muhammad images]]. Thank you very much. -- [[Paydalanıwshı:Si Gam Acèh|Si Gam Acèh]] 04:47, 2010 j. iyuldin' 18 (UTC)
 
== about assigning some pages in Karakalpak wikipedia to be deleted category==
Merhaba! Karakalpakdan selamlar! Beni turceyim iyi degil, therefore from here I will write in English. I'm an administrator of Karakalpak Wikipedia. I saw that you have allocated [Kategoriya:Diniy ag'ımlar] and [Kategoriya:İslam] categories to [Kategoriya:Candidates for speedy deletion]. I wanted to just know the reasons. Tesekkur ederim.
[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 04:38, 2010 j. oktyabrdin' 12 (UTC)
:Merhabalar. Dünyadaki tüm Türk kardeşlerimize selamlar olsun. Ben de Karakalpakça bilmiyorum :) I saw this wikipedia and I wanted to contribute as much as possible. These categories is not used, so these are not necessary. I'm also admin and bureaucrat in Turkish Wiktionary. So, I've a lot of experiences... If a category isn't used, it had better been deleted... Ben de teşekür ederim, işin gerçekten zor, (your job is too hard) iyi çalışmalar... Best regards :)--[[Paydalanıwshı:Sabri76|Sabri76]] 17:21, 2010 j. oktyabrdin' 12 (UTC)
 
== Paydalanıwshı atımdı o'zgertiw haqqında soraw ==
 
Men o'zimnin' paydalanıwshı atımdı o'zgertiwdi qa'leymen, hesh kim qarsı bolmasa kerak.
I want to change my username due to privacy reason, thus I guess no one have objections.
[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] 01:44, 2010 j. dekabrdin' 24 (UTC)
 
== Renamed ==
 
I've renamed your account as per your request on meta. Should you have any issues or questions pleasae do not hesistate to contact me or another steward. Best regards, --[[m:User:Dferg|dferg]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[m:User talk:Dferg|disc.]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 19:02, 2010 j. dekabrdin' 31 (UTC)
 
 
==Hello Qarahat ==
We’re looking for someone who could translate and upload on kaa. wikipedia [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMMAGINE%26POESIA this page]. Can you help us please? Thanks a lot !--[[Paydalanıwshı:Alessandroga80|Alessandroga80]] 19:35, 2011 j. marttın' 15 (UTC)
 
Здравствуйте Qarahat!
 
''Вы не могли бы перевести на ваш язык эти статьи, достаточно было бы несколько предложений.''
 
'''Центральная библиотека Дерби''' — основанная в 1879 году совместно с Музеем и художественной галереей Дерби библиотека, расположенная в красном кирпичном здании в Кафедральном квартале Дерби, построенном по проекту Ричарда Нилла Фримена[1] на деньги Майкла Басса-младшего. Это центральная библиотека города.
«Постоянная» библиотека в Дерби была основана в 1811 году на Квин-стрит; в 1832 году её могли посещать (имея платное членство-подписку) 84 человека[2]. Среди 4000 её томов были книги Философского общества Дерби. В 1863 году ботаник Александр Кроолл был назначен первым библиотекарем и куратором, а в следующем году музей и библиотека были соединены вместе.
 
'''Музе́й Де́рби и худо́жественная галере́я'''— музей, основанный в 1836 году совместно с Центральной библиотекой Дерби, в специально построенном здании по проекту Ричарда Нилла Фримена и пожертвованный городу Майклом Томасом. В музее представлено множество картин Джозефа Райта (в музее хранится более 300 его эскизов, 34 картины маслом и документы), продукция Royal Crown Derby. Кроме того, в музее собраны коллекции археологических, естественнонаучных, , геологических и военных объектов, а также коллекция фарфоровых изделий из Дерби и его окрестностей.
 
''Рәхмәт! Буду рад помочь в Башкирской Википедии.'' --[[Arnawlı:Paydalanıwshı u'lesi/81.30.191.231|81.30.191.231]] 07:43, 2011 j. avgusttın' 17 (UTC) Саган
 
== Turkic speaking wikipedians conference ==
 
==Conference Almaty==
Salem,
 
Men Qazaq Wikipediasynyn atynan habarlasip turmin. Bizder Karasha ayinin ortasinda Tyrki tildes elderdin Wikipediashylarinin basyn kosatyn Kuryltai otkizudi oilagan edik. Ar elden kelgen qonaqtar ozderinin qalai damyp zhatqandygyn habarlap, oi bolissek. Kuryltai Almaty qalasinda otedi. Ar elden 2 adamga grant beru maselesin sheship zhatyrmiz.
 
Eger ozderinizge qyzyq bolsa, habar berinizder!?
Qurmetpen, --[[Paydalanıwshı:Ashina|Ashina]] 05:25, 2011 j. oktyabrdin' 13 (UTC)
 
Salem,
 
I am writing on behalf of Kazakh Wikipedia. We were planning to conduct an event for the Turkic speaking Wikipedians in mid of November this year. The agenda will cover discussion on small language wikipedia development, experience from other countries and etc.
 
The meeting will be in Almaty, so we are starting the negotiotions regarding the travel grants for 2 person from each Wikipedia.
 
If you have any ideas to discuss, don't hesitate to contact me. I am kindly ask to share this information amoung other KAA WP editors.
 
Please send an e-mail to info@wikibilim.kz --[[Paydalanıwshı:Ashina|Ashina]] 05:25, 2011 j. oktyabrdin' 13 (UTC)
 
== Hello ==
 
Can you help me? This [[Shablon:Infobox musical artist]] have a problem. Look the image in [[Britney Spears]]. Goog evening. Thak you. --[[Arnawlı:Paydalanıwshı u'lesi/95.244.226.168|95.244.226.168]] 17:27, 2012 j. apreldin' 28 (UTC)
: I've fixed the template, now it seems OK. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|talk]]) 01:24, 2012 j. apreldin' 30 (UTC)
::Thank you. --[[Arnawlı:Paydalanıwshı u'lesi/79.33.248.137|79.33.248.137]] 12:54, 2012 j. apreldin' 30 (UTC)
 
== перевод ==
 
Привет! Как перевести на русский язык "Qaraqalpaqstan jasları gazetası"? "газета молодежи / молодых Каракалпакстана"? [[Paydalanıwshı:X ziomal X|X ziomal X]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:X ziomal X|talk]]) 17:53, 2012 j. maydın' 4 (UTC)
::: молодежная газета каракалпакстана. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|talk]]) 00:51, 2012 j. maydın' 7 (UTC)
:::: Большое спасибо! [[Paydalanıwshı:X ziomal X|X ziomal X]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:X ziomal X|talk]]) 12:28, 2012 j. maydın' 7 (UTC)
 
== Article translation/collaboration request ==
 
Hi Qarahat, how are you? Mate, I am trying to find an editor/s who can help by translating [[User:Russavia/Polandball]] into Karakalpak. I was wondering if we could make a collaborative trade?
 
If you could translate that article into Karakalpak for me, I would be happy to upload approximately 50 Uzbek aviation photos to Commons from amongst the 200,000 I have permission to upload. I have uploaded a number of photos to give you a brief idea of what I can upload, and I am keeping a gallery at [[User:Russavia]] of photos uploaded.
 
Would you be interested in such a collaborative "trade"? Do let me know, either by responding here, or on [[User_talk:Russavia|my talk page]], or by [[Special:Emailuser/Russavia|emailing me]]. Cheers, [[Paydalanıwshı:Russavia|Russavia]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Russavia|talk]]) 01:59, 2012 j. avgusttın' 14 (UTC)
 
== Interface translation ==
 
Hello! I've just wanted you to join [[betawiki:|translatewiki.net]] to translate interface meesages. Could you translate [http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=core&language=kaa&limit=1000&task=untranslated 1000 messages] to improve all Karakalpak language wikis? --[[Arnawlı:Paydalanıwshı u'lesi/112.210.105.79|112.210.105.79]] 03:48, 2012 j. sentyabrdin' 9 (UTC)
 
== Help ==
Could you please translate this article into Karakalpak?
 
Welcome to the [[Ido]] Wikipedia. Ido was first known as reformed [[Esperanto]] and was created in [[1907]] after seven years of deliberation by a committee of professors and linguists. You may notice that Ido looks somewhat like Esperanto, but with a number of differences including a complete lack of diacritical marks, the use of the letter 'q', along with many of the words themselves.
 
If you are studying Ido and want to write for our Wikipedia, feel free! There are people here to correct your Ido should you make a mistake. Just use the <nowiki> {{revizo}} </nowiki> tag whenever you think your article could use some grammatical revision.
 
The main site for the Ido language is located [http://www.ido.li here], Ido publications are located [http://www.publikaji.tk here], and the English Wikipedia article on Ido is located [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido here].
[http://io.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido_en_la_reto A complete list of sites in Ido on the internet is located here]. Lastly, the main reasons for choosing Ido over the more well-known [[Esperanto]] are summed up in [http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5037/chefaj.html this article].
 
 
Thanks for your help. If you want to get any article translated into Ido or Spanish, just tell it to me please. --[[Paydalanıwshı:Chabi1|Chabi1]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Chabi1|talk]]) 12:11, 2013 j. iyunnin' 13 (UTC)
 
==Karakalpak orthography==
 
Hello, I have some questions about Karakalpak orthography and was wondering if you might be able to help me answer them :)
 
* The Karakalpak Wikipedia seems to use i / ı, but I read on English Wikipedia that the current (2009) orthography uses i / i'. Is one variant preferred over the other ?
* Does the use of İ / I parallel the use in Turkish ? Even for foreign names ? (e.g. Isaac / İsaac)
* I have found both c and ts used for Russian ц (Franciya, Frantsiya --- there is also Fransiya), which is preferred ?
* What is going on with the spelling in [[İslam dini|this]] article? It almost looks like Turkmen! Is it just "[https://kk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC&variant=kk-latn transliterated]" from Kazakh maybe ?
* Is there a spellchecker available for Karakalpak ?
 
- [[Paydalanıwshı:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Francis Tyers|талқ]]) 23:06, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 6 (UTC)
 
: Hello!
: Thanks for you interest in Karakalpak language! Regarding your questions, I will try to answer them:
: 1) You are right, new alphabet based on latin scripts was introduced in 2009, thus i / i' should be used. However, most of the articles have been created before/just after introduction of new script, thus most of them still are in old script.
: 2) Yes, I guess so. In new script, it will be I / I'.
: 3) According to new script, 'c' has to be used for Russian ц. In previous version of the alphabet, it was 'ts'. Probably because of this, you can see both versions of the transliteration. Regarding, Fransiya, actually original Karakalpak language didn't have letter 'ц' in their alphabet, it was brought by Russians, thus in my opinion, in most of the cases, 'ц' could be substituted by 's', but it is my personal opinion.
: 4) That article is totally in Kazakh language, someone seems just copy&pasted it from Kazakh Wikipedia (transliterated).
: 5) No, unfortunately, we don't have such service yet, although I have some thoughts to do similar service in the future. There is a book called 'Karakalpak orthography dictionary', which can be a good candidate for a basis.
: --[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқ]]) 02:13, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 7 (UTC)
 
::I am part of a group called [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_Turkic Apertium Turkic]. Our goal is to make machine translation (MT) systems and spellcheckers for the Turkic languages. We recently presented our first MT system between Kazakh and Tatar.[https://svn.code.sf.net/p/apertium/svn/trunk/apertium-kaz-tat/paper/paper.pdf] I started work yesterday on Karakalpak. First I submitted a [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70217 bug report] to LibreOffice asking for Karakalpak to be included in the list of supported languages. I started work on the spellchecker[https://svn.code.sf.net/p/apertium/svn/incubator/apertium-kaa/apertium-kaa.kaa.lexc], but stopped when I came across these orthographic issues. So, moving forward, do you think that it is best to use i' and c? Should pages on the Wikipedia be converted to the new orthography? Would it be possible to get a copy of the 'Karakalpak orthography dictionary'? Would you be interested in participating in development of the spellchecker --- or of a Kazakh-Karakalpak MT system? - [[Paydalanıwshı:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Francis Tyers|талқ]]) 08:34, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 7 (UTC)
 
::: Hello Francis, sorry for late reply. I'm glad to hear about Apertium project, and its Turkic language working group, I didn't know about them before. Here are my answers to questions:
:::1) ''So, moving forward, do you think that it is best to use i' and c? Should pages on the Wikipedia be converted to the new orthography?''
:::This is a little bit complicated matter and I will give a little background. After Uzbekistan got independence in 1991, the new authority started getting rid of from previous soviet legacy. One of them was Cyrillic script, which was replaced by Latin one. In case of Uzbek language, this transition went very smooth, if I'm not wrong, the first version of the Latin script still being used without changes nowadays (not sure although, maybe there were some minor changes). But in the case of Karakalpak language, as we have more letters in our alphabet compared to Uzbek, this transition was not that smooth. First version of the latin script was good, in my opinion. The only drawback was that the letters ı/İ were missing in the standard keyboard layout. However, the good point was, it was easy to convert from Cyrillic to Latin script. In the new script from 2009, '''ı/İ''' have been removed, instead '''i'/I'''' have been introduced, but this was the minor change, the major was it become look similar to Uzbek in showing some of the vowels. For example, the word 'ерик' in Cyrillic, in first version would be just 'erik', however in new version it become 'yerik'. However the word 'экран' would be 'ekran' in both versions of Latin script. Another example 'өмир' would be 'o'mir' in previous version, but 'wo'mir' in new one. This change made very difficult to automate Cyrillic to Latin conversion process, which is very critical because most of the books in Karakalpak are still in Cyrillic script. So in my opinion, spellchecker/MT should be based on first version of Latin or Cyrillic, at least at the beginning. Probably later it can be extended to cover the new script.
:::2) ''Would it be possible to get a copy of the 'Karakalpak orthography dictionary'?''
:::Yes it is available, but only in scanned version. I have plans to recognize it one day, so that we can have its text version. But if you are interested
:::3) ''Would you be interested in participating in development of the spellchecker --- or of a Kazakh-Karakalpak MT system?''
:::Yes, definitely I have interest both in developing Karakalpak spellchecker and MT systems, and I'm ready to assist according to my free time. --[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқ]]) 08:36, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 16 (UTC)
:::: Qarahat, jawabingiz ja'ne mag'liwmatingiz u'shi'n ra'hmet! While I don't like the spellings "yerik" and "wo'mi'r", it should still be fairly trivial to convert text between the Cyrillic and the two Latin orthographies. Fran, I think I can write a twol that would do this fairly trivially. Given this, I think using the current official standard as the base for our tools is best, and we can later add support for the other orthographies using a conversion tool. Yen'bekteseri'mi'zdi' ku'temi'n! —[[Paydalanıwshı:Firespeaker|Firespeaker]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Firespeaker|талқ]]) 18:00, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 16 (UTC)
::::: '''Firespeaker''', thanks for comments. I agree that making a conversion tool from Cyrillic to Latin (old) script is trivial, but not in the case of new Latin script. Probably there are rules which makes clear when Cyrillic 'e' should be converted to 'ye' but not 'e', but I haven't seen them yet (although I can find the correct way by pronouncing the word), maybe because I'm not linguistics expert. But overall, I agree with your opinion. --[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқ]]) 02:46, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 17 (UTC)
 
Great! I have set up a Google doc spreadsheet as a way of getting stems for both the Kazakh-Karakalpak MT and the spellchecker &mdash; do you have a gmail address where I can invite you ? If you don't want to paste it here, you can send it to my [[Special:Emailuser/Francis Tyers|email address]]. - [[Paydalanıwshı:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Francis Tyers|талқ]]) 09:57, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 17 (UTC)
::For me, working in any of the orthographies is fine. The only concern with the i/ı is that the behaviour of some functions like <code>upper()</code> to get uppercase is not well defined. e.g. <code>upper('i') = 'I'</code> and <code>upper('ı') = 'I'</code>, but it doesn't really matter much, it can always be fixed and checked, and it's more important to get working. - [[Paydalanıwshı:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Francis Tyers|талқ]]) 10:01, 2013 j. oktyabrdin' 17 (UTC)
 
== "DiezelSun su'wretshi" page ==
 
This user behind the account will usually try and recreate that page under many different user accounts. In the end, stewards have started to delete and block the creation of the article page. "DiezelSun" and "Александер Татарников" and its romanised equivalent. [[Paydalanıwshı:Billinghurst|Billinghurst]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Billinghurst|талқ]]) 03:49, 2014 j. apreldin' 4 (UTC) (steward)
: Thanks for notification. I also noticed that and already deleted that page. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқ]]) 05:28, 2014 j. apreldin' 4 (UTC)
 
== Selam ==
Selam, I want to increase number of articles in karakalpakian viki. I can hardly understand your language, but as I said I can. :) If I make some mistakes could you warn me please? My mistakes always will be guileless. And I might need your hand for translate from Turkish to Karakalpakian and vice versa.[[Paydalanıwshı:Yoldasso|Yoldasso]]([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Yoldasso|mesaj]]) 16:34, 2014 j. apreldin' 25 (UTC)
: Waleykum assalam. Thanks for your efforts, I saw your contributions. So far your mistakes are minor, and don't worry, I will correct them as possible as I can. You can for sure count on me. Ben turkce az biliyorum ;-). [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқ]]) 14:25, 2014 j. apreldin' 25 (UTC)
==Hello==
I am from Turkey and I have a homework related to Karakalpak language. I can mostly understand English and Uzbek languages. Karakalpak seems to be an easy lto understand language but i can not find some words in an online dictionary. Can you please help me with this problem? In order to reply me you may mail me at le-kabak [at] mail [dot] com. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[[Arnawlı:Paydalanıwshı u'lesi/2001:A98:C060:80:AC3E:5D18:E5FC:9796|2001:A98:C060:80:AC3E:5D18:E5FC:9796]] 13:31, 2014 j. apreldin' 29 (UTC)
 
== Поддержка правительства ==
 
Здравствуйте! В [[:ru:Казахская Википедия|казахской]], узбекской, киргизской википедиях заливают энциклопедии выпущенные в бумажных носителях при помощи правительства этих стран. Президент Тувы выделил 500 тыс рублей на развите [[:ru:Тувинская Википедия|Тувинской Википедии]]. Также Эмомали Рахмон сказал что поддержит [[:ru:Таджикская Википедия|Таджикскую Википедию]]. Таких примеров много. Вы можете написать в правительство Каракалпаккии о поддержке каракалпакской Википедии? Есть готовые тексты [[:ru:Проект:Малые разделы Википедии на языках России/Популяризация|тут]]. Есть ли универсальные энциклопедии выпущенные на каракалпакском языке?--[[Paydalanıwshı:Kaiyr|Kaiyr]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Kaiyr|талқылауы]]) 12:19, 2014 j. maydın' 10 (UTC)
: Здравствуйте, ассаламу алайкум! Спасибо за интерес к Каракалпакской Википедии. К сожалению, на данный момент нету энциклопедий выпущеных на каракалпакском языке, по крайней мере, я не слышал. Насчет контактирования правительства Каракалпакии, можно конечно попытаться, но не уверен что мы можем получить положительный результат. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 00:55, 2014 j. iyunnin' 11 (UTC)
 
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== Сорау ==
 
Вот статусын алыу ушын не истеу керек ?
: Вот деген не екен? [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 00:53, 2014 j. oktyabrdin' 16 (UTC)
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== Baylanis ==
 
Salem ! Qarahat. Qayda turasin ?
 
== Interwiki ==
 
Qarahat barsan'ba bar bolsan', tekserip jiber. maqalalarga interwiki ornatganda tiller ko'rinbey atir maselen: [[Olmaliq FK|Minaw]]. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 17:18, 2014 j. oktyabrdin' 29 (UTC))
: Interwiki sitemelerdi qoyiw ushin, minanday formattag'i siltemelerdi qoyiw kerek: [[<til>:<maqala atamasi>]], ma'selen: [[[[uz:Olmaliq (futbol klubi)]]]]. Usinday qilip barliq basqa tillerdegi siltemelerdi qoyip shiqsan' boladi
: [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 00:28, 2014 j. oktyabrdin' 30 (UTC)
 
== Mamleketler atı ==
 
Salem Qarahat ! O'zbekstan degendi jıljitiw kerek [[O'zbekistan]] dep jaziliw kerek emespe. Qazaqstan degenide [[Qazaqıstan]] Ta'jikstandi [[Tajikıstan]] ga jıljitiw kerek.
([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 10:57, 2014 j. noyabrdin' 9 (UTC))
: Waleykum assalam. [[O'zbekstan]]di [[O'zbekistan]]g'a ko'shirdim, [[Qazaqstan]] degeni menin'she duris, al [[Ta'jikistan]]di durislap qoydim. -[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 05:17, 2014 j. noyabrdin' 11 (UTC))
:: Raxmet ! [[Tiva respublikasi degendi da [[Tuva]] ga jıljıtiw kerek, [[Ma'mleketler dizimi]] nde sonday jazilg'an. Odan keyin Frantsiya, taza Alfavit boyinsha [[Franciya]] dep jaziladi eken. Senin'she taza Alfavit boyinsha jaziliwi kerekpe ? - ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 05:57, 2014 j. noyabrdin' 12 (UTC))
::: Arzimaydi. Tuvani ko'shirdim. Franciyani qalay jaziw haqqinda oylap ko'riw kerek, uliwma bul wikipedia alding'i latin standartlari boyinsha baslanip edi. Alding'i latinnin' jaqsi jeri, kirilge avtomat rawishte o'tkiziwge bolar edi, ha'm kerisinshe kiril -> latin. Bul bastag'i waqitlari u'lken rol oynar edi, sebebi ko'plegen kirildegi bolg'an maqalalardi qiyinshiliqsiz, lating'a o'tkizip bul jerge qoysa bolar edi. Endi taza lating'a a'ste o'te berse ha'm bolatug'in shig'ar, biraq taza alfavittin' tu'siniksiz jerleri barshiliq, soni aniqlastirmag'ansha balkim eskisin qollanip turarmiz. -[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 01:57, 2014 j. noyabrdin' 19 (UTC)
 
== Ko'shiriw ==
 
Salem Qarahat ! Usini [[UEFA 2014-15 Shempionlar ligasi]] [[UEFA Shempionlar Ligasi 2014/2015]] degenge Jıljitıp bere alasan'ba ? ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 09:20, 2014 j. noyabrdin' 29 (UTC))
: Waleykum assalam. [[UEFA Chempionlar Ligasi 2014/2015|Ko'shirdim]]. Shempion degen o'zbeksheden kelgen qusaydi, biraq aljaspasam qaraqalpaq tilinde chempion boliwi kerek. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 01:36, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 2 (UTC)
: Tuwri qilipsan' taza Alfabit boyinsha sonday jaziladi. Biraq Shempion degen so'z o'zbekshede joq. Chempion dep jaziladi, o'zbek tilinde. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 06:23, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 9 (UTC))
 
== O'zin' haqin'da ==
 
Salem ! Qarahat Paydalanıwshı betin'e o'zin' haqqin'da jaza alasan'ba, Ma'selen, [[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Bizkindey]] qilip. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 14:00, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 9 (UTC))
: Menin'she, ha'zirgi bar mag'liwmat jetkilikli. [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 01:15, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 10 (UTC)
 
== Shablondı qorg'aw ==
 
Salem Qarahat ! Taza shablon ashtım [[Shablon:Rossiya subyektleri|usını]] ha'm [[Shablon:Hello|Hello]] degen shablondı qorg'aw kerek. Onan keyin [[Shablon:Tu'rkiya wa'layatlari|Tu'rkiya wa'layatlari]] degen shablondı du'zetiw kerek, Qirimtatarsha jazılg'an. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 12:07, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 15 (UTC))
: Waleykum assalam.
: 1. [[Shablon:Rossiya subyektleri]]n ko'rdim, biraq men keshe o'zin' aldin jaratqan [[Shablon:Rossiya]] degendi durislap, qorg'awg'a qoyip edim. Qa'lesen' sonin' atin [[Shablon:Rossiya subyektleri]]ne o'zgertemen.
: 2. [[Shablon:Hello]]di qorg'adim, endi tek esaptan o'tken paydalaniwshilar g'ana o'zgeris kirite aladi.
: 3. [[Shablon:Tu'rkiya wa'layatlari|Tu'rkiya wa'layatlari]] degennin' nesin du'zetiw kerekligin tu'sinbedim? [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 05:19, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 16 (UTC)
:: Menin'she [[Shablon:Rossiya|Rossiya]] degen shablon durisli shiqpadi. Sonin' ushin taza shablon ashtim. Rossiya degen shablondi o'shirip taslasada bolaberedi. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 06:17, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 16 (UTC))
::: Boladi, Rossiya shablonin o'shirdim, tazasina biraz o'zgeris kirittim:
::: Ma'mleketler -> Respublikalarg'a almastirdim, sebebi ma'mlekettin' ishinde ma'mleket boliwi naduris
::: Avtonom wa'layatqa Yakutiyani qosipsan', biraq [[ru:Шаблон:Субъекты_Российской_Федерации|oris versiyasin]] qarasam tek Yevreyskaya Avtomomnaya oblast' degen bar eken, soni durisladim. -[[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 02:51, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 17 (UTC)
 
== Paydalanıwshı atı ==
 
Salem ! Bizin' Paydalanıwshı atimdı latınshag'a jıljıtıp bere alasan'ba ? 3 degen no'mirdi qospay. Ayrim so'zler kirilsha ko'rinip atir. ([[Paydalanıwshı:Рахман3|Рахман3]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Рахман3|талқылауы]]) 13:23, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 26 (UTC))
: Waleykum assalam. Paydalaniwshi atin o'zgertiw adminlerdin' qolinda emes, onin' ushin [[:meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes|mina]] jerde arza beriwin' kerek.
: - [[Paydalanıwshı:Qarahat|Qarahat]] ([[Paydalanıwshı sa'wbeti:Qarahat|талқылауы]]) 00:39, 2014 j. dekabrdin' 29 (UTC)
 
== Maqala atı ==
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